冬日之光

剧情片其它1963

主演:古纳尔·布约恩施特兰德,马克斯·冯·叙多夫,英格丽·图林,古内尔·林德布洛姆

导演:英格玛·伯格曼

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  埃里克森牧师在瑞典一小镇宣扬基督的爱,认为爱是上帝存在的证明,但围绕在他身边发生的事却弥漫着世界末日的气息,因为他与人全无沟通。上承《犹在镜中》,下启《沉默》的《信仰三部曲》中间作品,场景集中(室内剧形式),时间短促(发生在一天内),虽然简洁但传递出深刻的涵义。

 长篇影评

 1 ) 随感

耶稣经历的最大痛苦不是肉体上的,而是是被离弃,先是被门徒——他们没有真正信仰他的传教,然后是主——他以为自己被主抛弃,自己所信仰的皆是虚无。片中的牧师也经历着类似的痛苦:民众正在丧失信仰,他自己也对宗教有所怀疑。如果圣子在死亡的最后一刻也受到怀疑的折磨,那是否说明人类的怀疑也只是情有可原的错误,是否暗示着神依然存在?

女教师玛塔象征着没有信仰的世俗生活,死去的妻子则象征秉持信仰的生活。上帝已死,信仰动摇(就像妻子的死一样,这只是自然发生、无法挽回的事实,而不是由于牧师的主观意志),但又无法接受没有信仰的生活,只好在这两者之间徘徊,找不到归宿。

塔玛对“主的沉默”的解释很简单——“因为他从不存在”。她比牧师更勇敢、更直面现实

猜测伯格曼试图用爱解决宗教无法解决的问题。玛塔不那么信教,但在开头唱完歌要到牧师面前跪下的时候,她是第一个走过去的,吸引她的与其说是对上帝的信仰不如说更多是对牧师的爱慕。她对牧师说“你必须学会去爱”。她给牧师的信中提到一次“显灵”的祷告——祈祷找到生活和忍受苦难的意义,然后意识到自己对牧师的爱就是生活的意义,她想要为了某个人活着。结尾有一段话说“主=爱”。

冬日之光:开头牧师读的“主用他的温暖之光照亮你”。

——你会得流感的

——就当是你给我的礼物

(好甜啊~)

不太乔纳斯自杀的动机。中国要造原子弹,也许是象征世界在罪恶中无法挽回地毁灭吧,“所有人都或多或少地感受到了这种威胁”。

第一次和乔纳斯谈话的时候,牧师说“我们必须相信主”,这时一直别过脸去的乔纳斯突然转过来盯着牧师,而牧师心虚地垂下眼睛,他知道自己在说武断的“蠢话”。此处背景中响起了伯格曼常用的钟表走动的声音。灾难无可避免、主似乎十分遥远(乔纳斯看着牧师,表情是迫切的、渴望的,他发现牧师理解自己的感受,于是等待着牧师对这些问题的回答)、心中无助(当乔纳斯发现牧师也无能为力时,表情变得失望),“但是生活还要继续”。这时乔纳斯问“我们干嘛非得继续生活?”牧师无法回答。

后来乔纳斯如约返回,

 2 ) 当信仰丢失了时

和英歌伯格曼的缘分应该是从大学开始,电影史和视听语言的老师力推博格曼大师的作品,连考试也是用他的创作生平来作为考题。第一次看野草莓的时候,完全被梦中看到自己尸体的荒诞场景给迷住。觉得那是有史以来我看到的最让我心悸的片段。后来很无意中看了《第七封印》,说实在的,当时并不能够完全懂究竟在讲些什么,但是博格曼的电影就是会有种魔力,哪怕不能get导演的意图,却还是愿意一直一直看下去。
研究生时,上男神的课被男神问到为什么会选择和电影相关的课程,答曰,只是想要看懂那些我看不懂的电影。博格曼的电影位居前列。这次终于有机会在电影院看了冬日之光。
最近在看一些电影的时候总是在想,内地究竟有没有对应上的风格。比如看完《东京物语》包括侯孝贤的作品时就在想内地有没有相关的,平静记述的这种类型的电影,这次看完冬日之光,也在考虑我们是否有拍过信仰缺失的电影,想来,作为一个本来就没有什么信仰的国家,可能信仰最缺失的时候也就是在文革吧,又刚好遇到文化管制。这个点日后可以好好挖一下。

 3 ) 一个并非普适的质疑

      伯格曼认为这是他最好的作品之一,我却不这么认为。他自己评价《冬日之光》:“将牧师所缺乏的信仰与他之前情妇的竞争作对比,将她的怨恨带点宗教色彩,去帮助他透过凡人的爱情去了解精神心灵上的辩解。”

      可问题在于,这种剖析建立在他对宗教的认识和理解上。他首先是个信徒(虔不虔诚另当别论),其次才是一个挣扎着的怀疑者。在我看来他在《冬》里对信仰的怀疑并非普适的,至少对我这样的人产生不了共鸣感。打个比方,怀疑中国核战危险和自杀,这样对我来说就是一个黑色幽默,而一本正经的态度对我来说就有点莫名其妙。

      无疑伯格曼对基督教的见解是非常深刻,不然不会丢出对上帝存在的质疑。但这种质疑是基于他年少时与身为牧师的父亲的争执上,所以对教徒和对信教模凌两可的人来说具有很强的冲击力。但对我就不行,因为于我这个对耶稣阿拉还是佛祖都不相信的人而言,伯格曼在《冬》里举的几个信仰丢失的例子都不普适,而且缺乏逻辑内核。

      姑且不论我是有神论者还是无神论者,至少我对宗教有一种深深的不信任,并且从艺术观点对待宗教是理性和批判的。这可能是我理解伯格曼信仰三部曲时,不可能逾越的一条鸿沟。

      好在他仍然是世上最伟大的导演,抛开这些内容不说,他的光影可谓是用得绝妙,几次侧光勾勒出人纠结不定的内心,却又仿佛有神在一旁注视。有人说看了像是在听巴赫的哥德堡变奏曲,我想大概就是这个味道。

 4 ) Fear and Trembling --- Michael Joshua Rowin on Winter Light

Fear and Trembling
Michael Joshua Rowin on Winter Light


The published screenplays of Ingmar Bergman’s “religious trilogy” contain, as a sort of introduction, a single-page announcement of the director’s intentions. “The theme of these three films is a “reduction”—in the metaphysical sense of the word.” Then, as if Bergman wanted to descriptively reduce these films of reduction, one-line summations of each film of the trilogy follow: “Through a Glass Darkly—certainty achieved. Winter Light—certainty unmasked. The Silence—God’s silence: the negative impression.” While the first and the last entries seem inadequate to their respective films’ complexities, it is the middle that, if one has seen Winter Light, brings pause. “Certainty unmasked”: the two words at once totally evoke and yet only hint at what might be the greatest achievement of Bergman’s mature work, an incredibly—almost painful—personal struggle with the nonexistence of God and the responsibility to oneself and others in the harsh light of doubt. The unmasking of religious certainty informs Winter Light’s sparse, skeletal story and structure, in which Bergman sheds any artistic ornamentation that remained from earlier films like The Seventh Seal and Wild Strawberries. But, like a leafless tree in the dead of January, the film also contains jutting branches, subtle articulations of concept and character that touch upon a multitude of emotions, ideas, and considerations, eventually extending into one of the most spiritually ambiguous endings in all of cinema and provoking a profound and haunting transformation.

In Through a Glass Darkly Bergman first presented his vision of the “spider-god,” an insidious, corrupt obverse to the benevolent Christian God, a tormenting idea of God’s failure within a meaningless reality. As Bergman himself described the concept in interview, “It’s a question of the total dissolution of all notions of an otherworldly salvation.” Everything in this first film of the religious trilogy points to an Inferno, and yet Bergman backs off. Creating the character of Karin as a schizophrenic allowed him, as well as the viewer, to keep a safe distance from the consequences and possibilities of God-as-evil-manipulator. And after Karin completely succumbs to insanity, her father closes the film by letting son Minus and the viewer know that all is not lost, that “God is love” and that Karin is surrounded by this love. One senses that this speech ends the film on an utterly false note, offering a facile solution in face of an enormous existential dilemma—the director even admitted as much later on. While Bergman begins to grapple with religious uncertainty in Through a Glass Darkly, the process is undertaken with trepidation and lacks sustained moral conviction.

Winter Light, on the other hand, tackles the issue of a sick or absent God directly, with a greater sense of gravity and with precise mastery of form. For one thing, the mise-en-scène of Winter Light never overwhelms or startles as it does in the previous film, instead becoming quietly and effectively integrated with the action. The various settings of Through a Glass Darkly provide natural habitats for a spider-god, allowing Bergman to create expressionistic cinematic set pieces like the sea-wrecked ship and the room with ripped wallpaper. But in Winter Light the surroundings become muted, hushed, as if God’s silence had left a palpable expectancy in the very air the characters breathe. Bergman, like Ozu, is a seasonal director (Summer Interlude, Virgin Spring, Autumn Sonata, etc.), and the role winter plays is as important as the Reverend Tomas’s church, providing a cover of gray, melancholic resignation and suffering.


 
    The film opens, however, within the interior of a cold, humble church in the rural Swedish town of Mittsunda. A service is in progress, with Rev. Tomas Eriksson leading the congregation. Tomas tells the story of Christ’s last supper with the disciples, in which he offers them his body and blood as eternal salvation. Thus Bergman introduces the film’s main theme—communication, a true giving and receiving between beings that redeems the meaninglessness of existence. As visual commentary, something occurs soon after that is, cinematically, almost preternatural in its simplicity and power. As the Reverend says the Lord’s Prayer, Bergman cuts to three exteriors (each fading into one another) that normally would serve as opening establishing shots, with the church looking like an abandoned ruin among winter trees, the hardened ground, and a half-frozen river. This unconventional but structurally integral insertion of a montage sequence at this point in the film creates a feeling of extreme alienation and loneliness—through a seemingly gratuitous move to the bitter outside world during a prayer of great strength and confiding, Bergman undermines the potential warmth of the words and transforms a God’s-eye-view into its opposite, a hollow, empty space where a caring God cannot reside. Communication and solace seem remote.

Similar in environmental effect is a scene in which Tomas visits the place where Jonas, the man whose fear of nuclear war he had previously attempted to address, has killed himself. The body lies near that same earlier shown river and, over the course of five long shots handled from two strategic camera positions, the viewer sees, in documentary-like footage, Tomas’s encounter with the rote process of tending to a fresh corpse: the body is covered with tarp, kept company by Tomas when the doctors leave the scene, and finally transported to a hospital van. Bergman shoots all of this in as subjective a manner as possible by remaining completely objective—that is, as Tomas now sees the world as being absent of any higher power, Bergman films the scene with attention to the concreteness, the pure materiality of the landscape, as if existence were pressing itself upon Tomas for the first time. There is no recourse to a close-up which would neatly spell out Tomas’s emotional state—Bergman demonstrates here his aesthetic restraint in creating a sorrow rooted in nature, in the half-glow of the dreary surroundings and the relentless rushing water nearby.

The languishing sadness of Jonas’s suicide comes from its particular pertinence to Tomas. Bergman unmistakably links both in their individual torments, Tomas’s an intensely personal one in his relationship to God, Jonas’s a global one in a sane assessment of an insane world’s death drive. The reverend’s earlier offhand, routine remark to Jonas—a seemingly pathetic try to dispel anxiety—haunts the screen during his lonely stay with the body: “We all go with the same dread, more or less.” Both fears emanate from the same, desperate place in the soul, the annihilation of the earth deeply related to the annihilation of the self’s significance in reality. Tomas’s existential dread carries with it a terrible possibility—might not the winter light that accompanied Tomas’s acceptance of meaninglessness also be the blinding flash of the A-bomb?


 
    Tomas’s openness with Jonas is the crux around which the film revolves. Tomas reveals that God for him was once a secure “echo-god . . . who loved mankind, of course, but myself most of all,” one that became “a spider-god, a monster” emerging after his wife’s death. Although the nursing, unchallenging God of his conventional Christian upbringing and practice revealed its perversity in the face of personal tragedy, Tomas’ desperation is unlike Karin’s madness. Tomas’s spiritual and emotional breakthrough, his realization of God’s silence and the falsity of his role as a man of the cloth, brings with it freedom, a terrible existential vertigo. Winter Light here answers Through a Glass Darkly by allowing the “spider-god” a positive manifestation without falling back onto evasive reassurances like “God is love.” Thus, when Tomas cries out, in the midst of his consuming illness and after his monumental admission, “My God, why have you forsaken me?” the question is answered by the expressionist winter light of the title streaming through the windows, mysteriously illuminating the features of a man reborn.

The passage from exterior to the interior, from the absurdity of existence to the individual’s realization of that absurdity, takes place within this crucial moment. It was initiated, in part by Marta, Tomas’s mistress and the local schoolteacher. Marta is one of Bergman’s most complex characters, a substitute mother/wife, searching atheist, and stigmatized Christ figure all at once. In her extended letter to Tomas, Marta details her own struggle with God, reminding him of how one day she prayed “to be of use,” to put her abundant strength to a task that will give her life meaning. The prayer was prompted by eczema that, symbolically, afflicted her hands, feet and crown. The Christ symbolism is clear, and Marta easily sees Tomas’s religious compromises corresponding with the breakdown in their relationship—after mentioning the moment she realized Tomas didn’t love her she pinpoints his lack of faith, his “peculiar indifference to the gospels and to Jesus Christ.”

Tomas’s reading of the letter while waiting for Jonas is another example of Bergman’s simple, delicate and yet rich approach in dealing with storytelling. When the reverend begins to read Marta’s words it becomes rendered as—instead of, typically, a voiceover or flashback—a four-and-a-half minute shot of Marta, seated in front of a bare wall, talking directly at Tomas and the viewer. This is unmediated communication, openness and expressivity, the spiritual and emotional nakedness that has been lacking ever since the service that was conducted entirely with foreign (i.e., the Church’s) words, and not the characters’ own. Prefiguring the radical forms of address in Persona and Hour of the Wolf, it is as if Bergman announces the intent of the entire trilogy with this shot (a similar two minute shot follows a minute-long flashback scene), a complete demolition and removal of psychological, emotional, and cinematic defenses—an unmasking.

Marta’s confession of finding meaning in wanting to share a life with Tomas, as well as her critical insight into Tomas’s hidden jealousy and hatred toward God, shifts the focus of the film. Later, in reaction to Jonas’s suicide, in reaction to a meaninglessness that only further exasperates questions of responsibility and duty, Tomas flees from individual salvation by bluntly confronting Marta. His grievances—that she treats him like a child, repulses him with her various illnesses that require constant attention, and her failure to replace his true love, his late wife—come as a shock. So accustomed have we been to Tomas’s resignation that this outburst comes across as a frantic testing of freedom and at the same time a return to the spiritual stalemate in the struggle to understand God’s silence. Marta (the praying, physically suffering atheist) offers a new kind of faith in the form of human love and companionship for Tomas (the atheistic, physically suffering reverend) but—as the location of their conversation, a schoolhouse, suggests—the teacher’s lessons in love and connection cannot reach the confused, bitter priest-turned-pupil. Tomas’s renunciation of a dead God now only allows him to burrow deeper into his own pity and coldness.


 
    Ironically, Tomas finds redemption in a church, a place he earlier damned for stifling his life with the false cover of servile Christian faith. There, Algot, the hunchback sexton, tells Tomas before the service something that has been troubling him about the Gospels: Christ’s physical agony could not have been as bad as his own. The true agony was Christ’s abandonment by the disciples and his ultimate moment of doubt on the cross when demanding to know why God had forsaken him. “To understand that no one has understood you. To be abandoned when one really needs someone to rely on . . . Surely that must have been his most monstrous suffering of all? I mean God’s silence.” Tomas responds in the form of a decision—will the service proceed in the absence of any congregates, save Marta? Bergman moves the entire sequence from gothic, candle-illuminated lighting to electric, reflecting both the otherworldliness of the atmosphere and its unbeautiful blandness. As Marta herself offers a silent prayer (“If we could dare to show each other affection . . . if we could believe in a truth . . . if we could believe . . .”), Tomas comes out to lead the service: “Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty. All the earth is full of His glory . . .”

In unmasking the certainty of religious faith, Bergman ends Winter Light with the almost unfathomable image of a godless reverend conducting a service for no reason other than his own sense of religious responsibility. Tomas’s final gesture suggests neither a reconciliation with God nor a turn toward self-parody, but a Sisyphian struggle in coming to terms with the absurdity of life. Marta’s prayer calls for the aspects (affection, truth, belief) still missing in the lives of damaged souls, while Tomas’s prayer confirms the ability to continually search for them, not through hollow ritual which made the first church service a theater of the grotesque, but through a personal, austere dedication to challenging and helping oneself and others in the face of meaninglessness. If God exists anywhere in Winter Light it is in that “absurd image,” as Tomas calls it, of Jesus on the cross questioning God as to the purpose of the Passion. The anguish of doubt, magnified in the cavernous, nearly empty church, proves that God need not exist for us “to be of use.” Instead, it proves that communication of that doubt—even absurdities like Tomas’s prayer to an empty church and a dead god—renders the silence bearable, makes it know that we are not dead in life, that we are constantly rediscovering ourselves in the midst of chaos and inertia, in the brilliance of that winter light which casts itself upon the valley of woe.

Bergman would complete the religious trilogy with The Silence, taking doubt to what is perhaps its inevitable flowering: communication, but for the faint candle that is Ester’s letter to Johan, becomes completely obliterated; war, only talked of in Winter Light, literally comes to town; and disease—that consistent Bergman metaphor—destroys mercilessly, hardly abated by human kindness or prayer. Persona moves further in this direction, with the relationship between Alma and Elisabeth a distillation of all the trilogy’s stumbling attempts at understanding. Winter Light, then, located in the middle of Bergman’s film career, stands as Bergman’s strongest testament to the nature of doubt, that paralytic wavering over the waters of faith and skepticism that infuses this singular film with its world-weary eyes and shivering soul.
 
 
 
 

 

 5 ) 爱赋予自身以意义

《冬日之光》被伯格曼称为是自己最得意电影作品之一,这和他的另外两部作品《犹在镜中》和《沉默》并称为“信仰三部曲”。伯格曼从片中人物细致微妙的关系出发,探讨信仰,爱等问题,为后世西方电影的发展提供了丰富的给养,一直被认为是现代电影的经典之作。
伯格曼的电影带有很明显的北欧室内剧风格,《冬日之光》的地点仅限于一个小镇内,人物的活动围绕着镇上的教堂,主要的情节冲突发生于教堂后狭小的休息室内,这种空间上明显的压缩就从外部给观者以压迫感,使得目光更容易深入剧中人物微妙的关系网中。另外,伯格曼善于通过对于人物对话的精到把握和面孔的细致描绘,达到直指内心的效果。例如在《冬日之光》50至60分钟男女主人公的长对话中,托马斯细数对于玛塔的厌恶,玛塔作为一个沉默的听者把内心的感受表现在面部的细微变化中,使观众惊叹于大师对于这样一种爱恨交织,怜悯和失望并存的情绪的完美呈现。而这些电影手法的运用,为导演传达自己对于爱与被爱,信仰的沦丧和坚持的理念作了很好的铺垫。
首先,不可否认,影片是关于上帝之爱的,上帝到底在哪里,为什么眼睁睁看着世间人经受的苦难而不予以回应。片中帕森因为中国拥有原子弹而思维陷入困境,终而走向自杀,这种纯知识分子为思想而殉道的方式在我们看来似乎是难以理解的,但是在二战后普遍陷入信仰危机的西方人中却并不少见。托马斯作为牧师本有责任让上帝之爱重新充满帕森的内心,而事实却是,他连自己也说服不了,上帝带走了他最心爱的妻子,他所经受的一切苦难都无从解释,北欧的冬天,无论外在环境还是人物内心都是冰冷昏暗的,如果“上帝不存在了”似乎一切都顺理成章了,但同时,一切的意义也失去了,活着也变成了一种近乎荒诞的自我折磨,因而帕森选择的是早早收场。
但是,仅仅停留在对于上帝的探讨,显然不是柏格森电影具有如此大的普世价值的原因。《冬日之光》归根结底,还是写形而下的人世,写微妙的人际关系。女主人公玛塔在给托马斯的长信最后写道:“我爱你,我为你而活,占有我享用我吧。在我虚假的自尊和独立背后,其实只有一个愿望:能被允许为某个人而活着。”爱情赋予玛塔以生存的意义,这意义是美好的,可感的,尽管托马斯仍旧冷酷得说自己是如何厌恶玛塔为他所做的一切,这让她近乎伤痛欲绝,但是在电影的最后,玛塔还是心甘情愿得做托马斯布道的唯一一个听众,尽管她是不信神的。从某种意义上来说,托马斯就是玛塔的上帝,一个不予回应的被爱者。
可是,拥有信仰的托马斯和玛塔都是拒绝沦落的,这让他们得以坚守,得以让爱充满人心,电影取名“冬日之光”的原因就在于此,冬日的光是若有若无,难以把握的,但同时又是温暖的,充满希望的。电影提到耶稣的受难之源是怨恨上帝的抛弃,可见爱而不可得的苦痛由来已久,这并不能构成我们放弃信仰爱的理由,因为爱的意义不在于获得被爱,而在于使自身获得救赎,坚守希望。
艺术从来就是给人以美感和希望的,伯格曼的电影亦是如此,上帝隐没了,爱归还于人间。身在不同文化语境和时代背景下的我们,似乎很难体会到他电影所传达出的理念,那么就从想通的人心和人性出发,获得属于自身关于爱与被爱的体会,一部好电影的价值,就在于此。

 6 ) 冬日之光

沉默三部曲第二部 开始诘问上帝 影片中的人物开始逐渐与对上帝的信仰剥离

不时的指针转动声和利用镜头对演员面容的凝视使得整部影片充斥着焦虑、恐惧与疏离感

牧师作为上帝在人间的代表 从一开始的仰拍镜头就体现了他的高高在上 似乎他就是神圣不可侵犯的权威 牧师对女人的爱不管不顾 也就像上帝对待信徒的虔诚祈祷一般 而作为这样一个人物却在之后承认了自己参与宗教活动只是为了逃避现实和谋求发展 这仿佛也是伯格曼对上帝的嘲笑

“我没有经历过宗教上的磨难 我家里没有基督教徒 充满了温暖 团结和快乐”“主和耶稣只是作为一个模糊的概念而存在 在我眼中你的信仰难懂且神经质 为原始的情感所累”这可能也是伯格曼想对自己父亲表达的观点 伯格曼的父亲作为宫廷牧师 住宅必须得随时接受教区公众的谈论和批评 父母亲必须表现得“十全十美” 承受这样不公平的压力也是伯格曼家庭压抑气氛的原因 而如果父亲不是牧师 那伯格曼的家庭会不会是充满温暖、团结和快乐呢

听到丈夫死讯后的佩森并不是歇斯底里的崩溃 对于丈夫自杀的预警以及作为家里剩下的唯一顶梁柱 让她不得不在极度悲伤的状态下保持理性 伯格曼这样的设计真是巧妙 不落于俗套 出乎观众的意料 却又真实和令人动容 后劲大

“主 为何要抛弃我”带着怀疑被抛弃后而死去也许是最痛苦的

结尾只有不信仰上帝的玛塔在教堂参加礼拜 一切都在不言中

从大多数国人的视角来看可能有点难理解他们对于上帝的信仰 换个角度 即小时候我们对父母亲的信任 信任他们能保护我们 但如果他们在我们需要帮助的时候将我们抛弃了呢

 短评

百子湾2016.2.26.7pm 首尾仪式的截然不同与相互映照。可以窥见冷战的重大影响(“中国人要造原子弹”并不对瑞典小镇造成直接威胁,却毁灭了他们对于人的无限发展进步的想象),上帝的沉默与情感无力的结构性仿佛。

9分钟前
  • xīn
  • 还行

1.冬日之光,虽然明亮却显得苍白无力,虽然仍有热量却无法温暖人心;2.上帝即是爱,若失所爱,心中的上帝是否还在?信仰的动摇,焦虑的世界,上帝在沉默。

14分钟前
  • 有心打扰
  • 还行

太残忍。教堂里的各怀心事,对上帝的各取所需。牧师是否其实是在聆听世俗的同时为自我的困惑寻找出口?然而当对自我都无法坦诚相见,自我的祷告和施予世俗的祷告是否成为了逃避懦弱的山洞,教堂也已经不再是寻找答案的避难所?这样看来牧师眼中的凡夫俗子或许对于爱的理解其实更加真挚深刻。

17分钟前
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没有了《犹在镜中》的复杂外景调度,室内景加戏剧化的表演简直就是神学课,主题是深邃了,可供玩味的余韵就不多。几位主演撑起了全片。西班牙内战、丧偶、伤残……这就是神创造出来的不完美的世界啊。中国人应该自豪吧,我们当年造出原子弹的新闻至少吓死了一个瑞典佬。

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相比《犹在镜中》,对上帝的直观讨论减少了些,但还是浓重于《沉默》

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  • 较差

4星半,微弱的信仰残烛,宗教性强于《犹在镜中》更为阴冷而封闭,伯格曼将自己前一部影片中的理论“上帝存在于爱中”的反复思索、质疑、甚至推翻。能够切身感受到对于信仰崩塌以及众人背离的悲观绝望,虽然在结尾,“上帝存在”这一理论和信仰仍然维系,但已经摇摇欲坠,亟待解构

24分钟前
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【中国电影资料馆展映】大部分场景在室内,摄影和构图非常讲究。观影时状态不佳,有待重看。三星半

26分钟前
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在充斥着「中国」威胁论调,看似严肃神圣实则滑稽可笑的《冬日之光》里,爱是「上帝」许诺给渴望被爱之人的礼物,可惜,这种轻易就能被中国人感同身受的甜蜜之爱既成了西方男性精神上逃避着的责任,也成了西方女性腹中怀揣着的负担与绝望。这套「叙事」话语明显是擅长「当面一套,背后一套」把戏的马戏团小丑抑或《魔术师》伯格曼忽悠抑或安慰「老弱病残孕幼」群体的谎言。接近甚至可以「以假乱真」扮演上帝的神父自己是一个不信上帝的「爱无能」患者。在主动释放「结婚」信号的情人抑或爱人面前,他高大上的伟岸形象被灵肉分离导致的精神分裂折磨得不成样子。宛如一根不幸的阳具,无法满足这个让女主感到安全的乞求。然而,他婴儿般的示弱(示爱)却能召唤母亲般的怜爱。他顺势将责任推卸给父母,并把自己背叛上帝或者婚姻不忠归咎于他们的呼唤和期待。

29分钟前
  • Muto
  • 还行

信仰像冬日阳光一样惨白无力,牧师也困惑其中。中国无神论者的胜利严重的打击了那个时代人们对上帝的信仰(电影里表现出来的)。信仰三部曲的中间作品,伯格曼这是叫人信基督还是反基督啊--

34分钟前
  • 帕拉
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"神之默示"三部曲中篇。1.风格极简而质朴,布光精妙,以静止镜头和小景别为主,摄影机对人脸的凝注一如既往。2.冷漠、疏离、傲慢、信仰动摇的牧师解答不了苦难与生死问题(由中国即将研制成功核弹引发的焦虑),亦无法接受玛塔对自己的爱。3.片尾教堂司事自承对耶稣受难时高喊的“我的神,为什么离弃我?”(见于[马太福音][马可福音],后两福音书则无此细节)的思考发人深省,身心的苦难与信-疑的纠结溢于言表。4.八分钟的玛塔对镜读信段落情真意切,中途插入的手中溃烂皮疹镜头则同质于耶稣圣痕。5.牧师发出天问后的一刹那,窗外耀眼的光线兀自笼罩了他,一如马力克[通往仙境]结尾的那道神秘圣光。6.牧师说,每当直面上帝,祂就会变成某种丑陋恶心的东西,如蜘蛛——恍若[犹在镜中]变奏。7.首礼拜详尽展示,末尾则仅有非信徒玛塔一人。(9.0/10)

38分钟前
  • 冰红深蓝
  • 力荐

在信念终于垮塌的黑暗时分,一束[冬日之光]倏忽照亮了牧师的脸。呵!上帝不是爱,爱亦不是上帝,怀疑才是。当结尾的钟声敲响,女主角跪下去祈求哪怕一丁点的信仰,我们很难不为之动容。这就是人类吧,在疑惑中苦苦寻觅着光亮。伯格曼不仅用他高超的语言、更用他的沉默轻松地摧毁了我。那是上帝的沉默。

41分钟前
  • brennteiskalt
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对白写得真好。两个很棒的段落:Lundberg女士念信,直面镜头难以逃脱;神父与Lundberg在铁轨前停车,神父说是他父母期望他成为神职人员,此时火车喷着蒸汽,头也不回地往前驶去。

45分钟前
  • Lies and lies
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神的语言是沉默,我想其实人不是在跟神对话,而是跟自己对话;每个人都跟你对话,或者是神的意旨,或者根本只是自己的臆想;而这些对话都发生在法罗岛。

47分钟前
  • vivi
  • 推荐

《犹在镜中》探讨了“上帝是爱,爱是上帝”,《冬日之光》则嘲讽了这观点。同属“信仰三部曲”,延续了上帝是否存在的探讨,但比前作的癫狂更绝望,心如死灰的牧师再无装载盛情的可能,反向信众倾吐苦水。管家说,耶稣被钉死前使徒离弃,上帝不应,在怀疑中死去最痛苦。谈及中国原子弹威胁,有意思。

52分钟前
  • Mr. Infamous
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宗教仪式越是庄严肃穆,与会者们的小动作越是放大得明显。而后大部分时间里,几乎只有大段大段的台词文本,缺乏肢体语言和表情,甚至连镜头都不移动。吊诡的是,不动镜头的摄影竟然广受赞美(不可否认光的运用确实是亮点)。在这样一部仅有81分钟却模糊了故事性的电影里,伯格曼就是在利用电影做文学。

57分钟前
  • 十一伏特
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#重看#古典、简洁、沉默、肃穆,德莱叶与布列松隐约可见;冬日之微光惨淡稀薄,恰如信仰之岌岌可危,光线变化折射勾连心理转变;构图与镜头都很工整,与牧师职业&教堂氛围契合;他永远在书写亲情的疏离、神性的质疑,父亲的阴影像冬日的雪彻骨一生。

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伯格曼一生不断地相信、质疑、否认、肯定、幸福、痛苦的回环纠缠和激荡,在他和上帝的“摔跤”过程中,他通过影片来表现他幽冥晦暗处的驳杂思想和宗教浩渺感:世人痛苦焦灼、上帝神秘莫测、灵魂低语无奈,许多潜伏在幽冥深处的哲学玄妙通过他的不可言说的混沌和丰富多彩的影像表达出来。

1小时前
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那個愛著牧師的女人,給我一種除了牧師其他人都看不見她的錯覺。

1小时前
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上帝都是沉默的,他不为信仰他的人指明道路,总是在事情发生之后通过神迹来补偿,假如我们相信上帝的存在,信仰就是一件痛苦的事情。渔民的自杀代表着希望的苍白,信仰是一个沉重的负担。伯格曼摧毁了上帝代表安全感、上帝即爱的概念,这样的上帝形象不过是人的心理投射,应该予以革命,予以背叛。

1小时前
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柏格曼最叫人厭斥的要素集大成…….為什麼自私的男人在他的電影(總)是如此受女人寵愛?

1小时前
  • 焚紙樓
  • 很差

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